Skepticism About Claim of Big Pharm Innocence

Quite recently, both NORML's Paul Armentano, and DRCNet's Scott Morgan have published articles attempting to debunk the idea of Big Pharm supporting Marijuana Prohibition.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-armentano/why-im-not-convinced-big_b_111523.html
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blog/2008/jul/09/do_pharmaceutical_companies_supp

People are skeptical about these attempts at dissuasion, beyond myself, as I found upon a NORML BB from New Zealand:

https://norml.org.nz/postp64429.html&sid=ce8133422b1d6fb3051cd1bd3e89e834#64429

Tony
Chronic Pothead



Joined: Oct 29, 2004
Posts: 3153
Location: NZ

nightshade wrote:

tony, hopefully you're friends are mistaken. just for discussion here's another piece i found online. i'm pathologically optimistic - - - - - - - - 1. Pharmaceutical companies are vigorously pursuing patents on various marijuana components and derivatives for a great variety of potential medical applications. Given the rigorous and heavily politicized FDA approval process they'll ultimately need to pass, there's no sense in indulging anti-marijuana hysteria within the government bureaucracy.

I sway between optimism and pessimism.

I read that piece and felt he had got it wrong.. His very first point (1.) to me explains why.

The drug companies have known for over 50 yrs ( maybe hundreds) and even so more of late cannabis has considerable medical attributes . Up until recently and in part thanks to GW 's they have begun a race to develop an alternative to natural product , one they can secure commercial interest and clip the ticket on..

Its still in their best interest to ensure natural product is excluded as competition , they will be able to oversell the objections as to the negative propaganda they create on cannabis by using the same arguments they used when they convinced our own MOH and Ministers Of Health to drop natural product and replaced it with sativex on any applications for approval.

They will ensure the staus of cannabis remains as it is , just as morphine is approved but opium is not, one of the ploys we will see soon..
I am optimistic we will overcome , but only if we know just what we are up against..
Know thy enemy .

tony

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paula Forum Moderator Joined: Dec 01, 2003 Posts: 2340 Location: Christchurch, NZ

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:45 pm

Thats an interesting article nightshade. I don't think I am about to swallow it hook, line & sinker right at the moment. But thats just me
Money, influence, power and control, of course the police and others have a hand out for their pound of flesh or, more politely, their piece of the prohibition pie. Yum yum. ...........

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Plausibility of Big Pharm Thwarting/Slowing Drug Policy Reform

Comment posted by Anonymous on Sat, 07/12/2008 - 3:45pm

http://freedomofmedicineanddiet.blogspot.com/2008_03_01_archive.html

Possible Future 1st Lady Cindy McCain on Drug Policy?

We know that her husband is a complete putz on drug policy- suporting the criminal pharmacratic inquisition (drug war) with all of its detriments to society.

But how does his wife feel?

Has anyone asked her, on line or in person.

Someone has got to do a video of that!

The Drug War Is Criminal

Why the drug war is a crime against humanity explained in plain English By Carmen Yarrusso Online Journal Guest Writer Aug 12, 2008, 00:20

"It�s impossible to reason people out of something they have never been reasoned into." --Jonathan Swift

Like the Iraq war and the �war on terror,� the so-called �drug war� is a government contrived �war� based on lies that generate massive profits for a few while causing massive suffering for many.

The drug war is futile by design (and thus never-ending) because it doesn�t �fight� drugs -- quite the contrary -- it strongly encourages production and distribution of prohibited drugs by guaranteeing extremely high profits.

But the most insidious and evil aspect of the drug war is it manufactures its own enemies by criminalizing the most basic of human rights -- the right of sovereignty over your own body. The drug war could not exist without first inventing a bogus crime.

Our government wastes billions of tax dollars each year harassing and jailing millions of decent, productive Americans for a government-invented �crime.� The use of drugs (even dangerous drugs like alcohol and nicotine) simply doesn�t meet any reasonable definition of �crime.�

Real crime requires action that harms another. Real crime requires both a victim and a perpetrator. For example, robbery harms another and has both a victim and a perpetrator. Only a corrupt, depraved government could invent a crime you commit against yourself.

If you use certain drugs, our government claims you�re both a criminal and a victim at the same time. Since the perpetrator can�t be separated from the victim, the victim is further punished for the �crime.� This pathetic perversion of justice is vigorously championed by our government for selfish political reasons.

More than 50 government agencies share billions of your tax dollars each year �fighting� a government-created crime. Of the millions of illegal drug users, the vast majority use marijuana. If marijuana were legal like alcohol, these government agencies would suddenly lose billions of dollars because millions of former �criminals� would suddenly be granted sovereignty over their own bodies. The vast army amassed to fight the drug war would need to be dissolved at great cost.

That�s why our government strongly opposes even honest debate about marijuana legalization because this massive money-making scam would soon end.

Ingesting nicotine, alcohol, fatty foods, or certain drugs may be unwise. But why is it a crime? If a drug user or a non-drug user harms another they should be treated equally. But the bogus �crime� of drug use doesn�t require harming anyone. Nor does it require a victim and a perpetrator. It only requires a government-invented, bogus criminal/victim, a drug user.

By using lies and deception our government convinces gullible Americans that simply putting something into your own body is a serious crime. But evidence clearly shows that nearly all the harm associated with drug use is caused by creating the bogus crime, not from the actual drug use. There are millions of drug users, but relatively few are harmed by their drug use. These few should be patients, not criminals.

But it�s not just the millions arrested for drug use who suffer from this gross injustice. We gullible Americans have allowed our government to invent a bogus crime that causes massive misery worldwide while costing the taxpayers billions.

Consider the following list of easily avoidable human tragedies that are the direct result of a government-invented, bogus crime: A tax-free, unregulated, multi-billion dollar drug industry necessarily run by violent criminals; a giant law enforcement bureaucracy wasting billions in a futile attempt to curtail this drug industry, which, in fact, guarantees its extreme profitability; a deteriorating public education system robbed of billions to support this law enforcement bureaucracy; courts and prisons overflowing with non-violent �criminals� while murderers, rapists and real criminals go free; tens of thousands of children enduring the suffering and stigma of having one or both parents in jail for a bogus �crime�; the gradual erosion of our Constitution as more and more civil liberties are sacrificed to fight a crime �made in USA�; rampant corruption of foreign governments (like Mexico and Columbia), so driven by US drug profits that life and human rights are secondary; thousands of adults and children infected and dying from HIV because distributing clean needles is a �crime�; violent street gangs with little incentive for education or legitimate jobs reaping huge drug profits made possible by a bogus crime; a growing death toll from police breaking down doors to catch people using substances less dangerous than tobacco, alcohol or fatty foods; a growing cynicism and disrespect for all laws and authority fueled by the knowledge our government can arbitrarily invent a bogus crime . . .

This sordid list goes on and on.

We�re appalled when Islamic regimes invent bogus crimes against reading certain books, or listening to certain music. Using certain drugs is our government�s version of the same thing. But the worldwide consequences of US drug prohibition are far more serious and severe. All of these �crimes� lack the moral basis of real crime. All are clear cases of a repressive government dictating the private personal behavior of its citizens.

If real crime is knowingly causing harm to others, then the real crime here is not drug use, but making drug use a �crime.� And the real criminals are not drug users, but ordinary people like us, who sit back and condone a ruthless scam that has been exported and exploited around the world leaving massive human suffering in its wake.

Copyright © 1998-2007 Online Journal

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3608.shtml

US Govt Treating Troops to Killer Vaccines

A government which bans certain drugs as "dangerous" apparently has no problems with subject gating its troops with killer drugs.

Organized Crime Via Police

Can those officials responsible be arrested/charged with reckless endangerment?

20/20 Video on Rachie Hoffman

And what about this police officer's conceptualization of "criminal"?

Organized Crime 'Knights of Malta' Honors Criminal

"Knights of Malta" organization that William Randolf Hearst belonged to
Honoring Organized Crime Against Free Markets

Marco Nicovic- Vice President of International 'Narcotics' Enforcement Officers Administration - organization for the protection of cigarettes and pharmaceuticals, and the illegal/immoral suppression of Coca, Cannabis and Opium



More about this international crime organization's involvement with the criminal mercantilism of the pharmacratic inquisition:

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=61418&view=getnewpost

Here's some more revealing info I have on SMOM Dr. Alexandr Cach.

Dr. Alexandr Cach is a Knight of Malta and his company Graddo founded in 1990 is a SMOM-front org like AmeriCares. What caught my attention was this...

"In 2000 for his whole educational and entrepreneurial profile and social statute, particular for his active contribution in humanitarian area and for his help to citizens in Moravia at the time of floods in 1997, the Chief of Board of GRADDO, Dr. Alexandr Cach, was accepted into the Sovereign Order of Knights of Malta by its Regent, Dom
Lorenzo, as an expression of the highest recognitition in all of these areas within recognizable delegation for humanitarian and security activities in the Czech Republic and in the regions of Central Europe.

Due to the membership in this Sovereign Order of Knights of Malta and active cooperation with prominent members of this order company Graddo could enlarge its activities on the highest level of the global scale.

In 2005 Dr. Alexandr Cach became a Minister of Humanitarian Affairs of the Federation of Knights of Malta and he got a diplomatic passport of this order. In 2000 Dr. Alexandr Cach passed several verifications of the U.S. federal units and he was accepted as an active member of the leading world association that fights against narcotics [sic], International Narcotics Enforcement Officers Association" (INEOA) and its branch DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) that operates worldwide under the auspices of the U.S. Ministry of Justice. He has certificates for these activities in the area of security with a permission of providing security consulting."
http://www.graddo.com/index.php?id=155

Photo of Papal Knight Cach
http://www.johnkalodner.com/DrAlexandrCachJDK0304.html

Scroll down and you will see SMOM Cach's "Prestigious prize - Via Bona for his solidarity, citizenship and humanity, awarded by Citicorp New York, Citibank a.s., Foundation of the Civil Society. Citigroup/Citibank was bailed out before declaring bankruptcy by Masonic Alwaleed Bin Talal who gave money to his Georgetown Jesuit masters and Jesuit-controlled Harvard for Islamic studies.

Note the emphasis on the letter "G" in his company logo http://www.kingdom.com.sa/en/mng_ExecChairman.asp

Bin Talal is also tied to SMOM run Carlyle Group as the Dutch news documentary "The Iron Triangle: The Carlyle Group EXPOSED" shows.
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Carly...p-ExposedHI.htm
Updated version: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7094545816220336237

Cach was "an active member of leading world association for fight against narcotics [sic] of the International Narcotics Enforcement Officers Association - INEOA and its analogically focused branch - DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration)." So SMOM Dr. Cach was involved with the DEA so the Black Pope's International Drug Trade is of course overseen by his Knights in the U.S. Ministry of Justice/Justice Dept. and CIA.

Nick Rivera

Tabloid Dopiness

Promoting the Lie that Marijuana is Shameful:
A Tabloid's Shameful Promotion of Pharamacratic Inquisition/Criminal Mercantilism

A tabloid's shameful 'reporting' upon a man's preference,
and his exercise of the 1st, 2nd and 9th Amendments of the U.S. Constitution

Elvis Presley exemplified dopiness by believing that a drug's safety had something to do with its legal status: e.g. it's illegal for being dangerous or legal for being safe.

That's why he would not smoke Marijuana, but instead end up dead from taking massive amounts of pharmaceutical opiates.

After all, Elvis Presley was quite gullible- as is anyone swallowing the lie of Marijuanna Prohibition.